Confused about Collets

07 Oct.,2024

 

Confused about Collets

Hi Woodguy,

I'll try to answer and hope I don't add to the confusion.

I use 4 different collet systems in my shop: R8, 5C, MT3 and ER40.

R8: The most common (by far) taper collet used for milling machines in North America. Thus, the tooling is readily available and affordable in the new and second hand markets. I've never seen an R8 taper on anything but a mill. The collets require a draw bar to pull them up tight so they are closed end. The collet is released by backing off the draw bar and tapping it with a dead blow hammer.

5C: Quite common on production sized lathes, this is a self-ejecting pass-through collet. Though similar in appearance to an R8 the body is larger and the taper is slightly sharper and more abrupt. The outside far end of the collet is threaded for a draw tube that is connected to the locking/ejecting mechanism.

MT3/4: These are Morse Taper collets. The taper is rather shallow and locks quite firmly using a draw bar. They are closed end. Releasing the collet is similar to the R8 but may require a rather sharp smack to release as they can grip very tight because of the slight taper.

ER series: All of the ER series are similar in design, the difference is the physical size of the collet and capacity. These are a pass-though and self-ejecting design. The collet itself has two tapers and is shaped somewhat like a truncated diamond. A nut with a ring in it locks into a groove in the collet, the nut screws onto the chuck pressing the collet into the taper. The collets for each "step" (ER11, ER16, ER32, ER40 etc) are not interchangeable with each other.


The R8, 5C and MT collets have very little tolerance for off sized work. Your material/tool must match closely the size of the hole in the collet. The ER series is much more forgiving in this regard allowing as much as a millimeter variance in size.

There are many more collet systems used throughout history and the world but these are the most common, you will be able to find any of these at reasonable cost at any of the major tool vendors or on Craig's List/ebay.

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The Benefits of Collet Chucks vs. Three-Jaw Chucks

Three-jaw chucks are the standard work holding device for most CNC lathe users. It is among the most widely used types of chuck in a variety of turning applications. However, that does not mean it is the best chuck for all jobs. A collet chuck is an alternate work holding device that also uses mechanical forces to hold a workpiece. While a collet chuck does not work with the same wide range of workpiece sizes that a jaw chuck can accommodate, it offers advantages in speed, accuracy, and productivity that may be crucial for certain jobs.

What is a Collet Chuck?

The standard work holding system that comes with most CNC lathes and turning centers consists of a three-jaw power chuck, a hydraulic actuating cylinder, and a drawtube. The hydraulic cylinder is attached to the rear end of the spindle, while the chuck is mounted to the spindle&#;s front or working side. The cylinder and chuck are usually connected via a hollow, steel drawtube that passes through the spindle bore.

Similarly, a CNC collet chuck is mounted to the front of a CNC lathe spindle, using the machine&#;s existing cylinder and drawtube to actuate:

The axial motion of the hydraulic actuator&#;s piston is what causes the collet chuck&#;s jaws to open and close. The drawtube moves in unison with the piston, driving a wedge-shaped plunger within the chuck body as the piston slides back and forth. The plunger, in turn, converts axial motion to radial motion, accomplishing the opening and closing of the jaws. The gripping force of the jaws to a workpiece corresponds directly to the output of the actuator; thus, this force is easily regulated via a pressure valve.

Of course, a collet chuck requires a collet to function. Typically, collets have something like a 0.062&#; gripping range. Collets are readily available for round, hex, and square stock. A collet chuck can handle a fairly wide range of collets (e.g. 3/16&#; all the way through to 2-5/8&#;). Special collet requirements can be accommodated. Most modern collet chucks have a quick (e.g. 10 seconds) change functionality for reduced set-up times.

Contact us to discuss your requirements of Straight Shank Collet Chuck. Our experienced sales team can help you identify the options that best suit your needs.

When is a Collet Chuck a Better Choice than a Three-Jaw Chuck?

  • Bar Feeding: Collet chucks are ideal for machines equipped with bar feeders because they provide full 360° contact, ensuring that the bar stock remains on centerline and allowing for accurate re-gripping after being advanced. A collet chuck also helps to minimize vibration, and opens and closes faster than a three-jaw chuck.
  • Small Diameter Work: Collet chucks offer much better tool clearance for small parts ranging in size from 1/16&#; to 4&#; in diameter. Collet chucks can also be run at higher speeds, and provide superior gripping force, than three-jaw chucks.
  • Short / Thin Parts: A collet chuck&#;s low-profile design provides better tool clearance and allows for machining very close to the chuck face, which helps prevent thin parts from sagging or bending.
  • High Speed Operation: Compared to three-jaw chucks, collet chucks hold up far better to the negative effects of centrifugal force. This allows collet chucks to run at higher speeds with consistent gripping force.
  • Reduced Setup Times: A collet can be changed much faster than chuck jaws, and without boring. Collet chucks keep your machines making chips &#; and profits!
  • Pipe and Tube Work: Collets provide 360° contact with the part, distributing the gripping force evenly around the part&#;s entire circumference and reducing the risk of crushing or distorting thin-walled parts.
  • Odd Shaped Parts: With a bit of customization, collets can easily be made to hold off-shaped or off-center parts. There is a wide selection of standard collets designed for round, square, and hex stock.
  • Better Tool Life: The paddlewheel-like shape of a three-jaw chuck can deflect coolant before it reaches the cutting tool tip, shortening tool life, whereas the streamlined shape of a collet chuck enables precise coolant delivery. Collet chucks also produce far less mist than three-jaw chucks.

 

Our preferred supplier partner for collet chucks is Royal Products. Royal provides a wide range of work holding options, including several lines of collet chucks.

For more information about the benefits of collet chucks and help selecting the right work holding device for your operation, contact us.

 

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